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Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الأربعاء يونيو 12, 2019 6:04 pm
بواسطة hayder
from front.

we can see an additional small camera for close by views of crouching enemy and mines.

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Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الأربعاء يونيو 12, 2019 7:53 pm
بواسطة iraqidabab
In 2019 they start a project to produce a tank that is from a previous era, meanwhile Egypt goes on a plan to locally produce T-90MS tanks and already locally assembles Abrams tanks. This is idiotic.

Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الخميس يونيو 13, 2019 11:55 am
بواسطة hayder
iraqidabab كتب:
الأربعاء يونيو 12, 2019 7:53 pm
In 2019 they start a project to produce a tank that is from a previous era, meanwhile Egypt goes on a plan to locally produce T-90MS tanks and already locally assembles Abrams tanks. This is idiotic.
its not a production. just a rebuild of old Type-69s. Iraq simply doesn't have the budget to arm more than one "front line" armoured division (nor does it really need it).

simple upgrade schemes like this one (or even better, put ATGMs and small UCAVs on light armoured vehicle) is a cheap way of maintaining some relative military effectiveness at low cost. These are suitable as simple fire support vehicles for infantry units. Of course against any potential enemy MBTs you would fall back on the use of pick up mounted ATGMs.

think of it as a cheap backup for the BMP-3M.


so you would have:

Front line tanks 200:
130 M1A1
70 T90S

Second line tanks for infantry and mech infantry 350:
100 T72
100 Kafeel-1 tanks
150 BMP-3M

a fleet of 550 mixed tanks in 2020 is acceptable. MBTs are not a big thing anymore

Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الخميس يونيو 13, 2019 9:10 pm
بواسطة hayder
today was the official launch. thankfully they straightened out the LED headlamps.


here we can see that the bustle seems to have a top loading opening?

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Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الخميس يونيو 13, 2019 9:13 pm
بواسطة hayder
some more from the launch.

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Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الخميس يونيو 13, 2019 9:16 pm
بواسطة hayder
we can see that unlike the claims of the makers.

the ERA armour looks like a fake mockup

There is only one sight and its fixed

The claim about 360 degree vision seems to be the installation of 4 webcams around the hull.

the bustle idea is useful. but is it a real functional bustle or just an external box for ammo made to look "western"?

Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: السبت يونيو 15, 2019 9:49 pm
بواسطة TangoIII




Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: السبت يونيو 15, 2019 9:57 pm
بواسطة TangoIII
أعتقد ان التطوير يقتصر على توفير حماية أفضل للدبابة و طاقمها و لم يتم العمل على تطوير مدفع الدبابة الذي ظل مدفع الدبابة تي-55 قياس 100- مم ذاته الذي يعتبر مدفع غير مناسب و قديم لمواجهة تصاميم الدروع الحديثة للدبابات التي تملكها دول المنطقة

Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الثلاثاء يونيو 18, 2019 4:13 pm
بواسطة hayder
yes. I would not call this an MBT. it does not have the armour, armament or manoeuvrability of a modern mbt.

as a cheap infantry fire support vehicle it should be ok. the small CCTV cameras, remote weapons station, night sight and bit of additional armour are useful. If they did indeed add an auto transmission, that would be useful too for easier controllability of the vehicle.

Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الخميس يونيو 20, 2019 8:52 pm
بواسطة TangoIII
أنحصرت التعديلات على هيكل الدبابة التي-55 وفق تجارب الحرب ضد المجموعات الأرهابية داعش والتي تعتمد على أمتلاكهم أسلحة مضادة للدروع بشكل متنوع بالأضافة الى العربات المفخخة المختلفة و هذه الفكرة جعلت من هذ الدبابة دبابة أسناد للمشاة و ليست دبابة قتال رئيسية و دورها والتعديلات ليست الا توفير القدرة على دعم قوات مشاة تقاتل هذه المجموعات في ساحات المعارك و في حروب المدن و ليست مطلوب منها مجابهه أي دبابات وهي بذلك تقترب من فكرة دبابات دعم المشاة التي كانت سائدة قبل و أثناء الحرب العالمية الثانية

Re: Kafeel - 1 Tank - upgraded T55/Type69

مرسل: الجمعة يونيو 21, 2019 12:41 am
بواسطة hayder
one thing I would have done is maybe replace the 100mm gun with a 57mm S60 gun and achieve a higher rate of fire and carry more rounds. I would also have added a 40mm grenade launcher alongside the 12,7mm RWS.

In addition, and genuinely useful, would have been the addition of two small UAVs with their own "landing pads / recharge stations" at the back of the bustle into which they would fly automatically. and provide more situational awareness to the crew. With one UAV flying and one recharging.

Those would have been useful upgrades.