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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الثلاثاء ديسمبر 29, 2015 12:39 pm
بواسطة hayder
zarib كتب:Is that helicopter carrying 4 weapons pylons or am I misunderstanding the picture?
yes. the serbs installed a 4th outrigger... i am guessing they won't be carrying many soldiers if they carry that much armaments.

Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الثلاثاء ديسمبر 29, 2015 12:50 pm
بواسطة hayder
التوبوليف العراقية كتب:ولكن مالحكمة من صواريخ بمديات لاتبعد الطائرة عن دائرة خطر الصواريخ الموجهة الحرارية اوالمدفعية م/ط ؟؟ :-?
here is the rocket specs.
http://www.yugoimport.com/en/proizvodi/ ... ket-family


BR-VZ-128 mm aircraft rocket family is consisting of two basic models:

BR-VZ-128 mm KUM M80 with HEAT warhead, and
BR-VZ-128 mm with HE warhead.
Rockets are intended for launching from a four barrel L-128-04 rocket launcher which is suitable for for readily adaptible to any fixed or rotary wing aircraft capable of carrying such payloads and provided with weapon release units of 250 mm to 355.6 mm (14 –inch NATO STANDARD) hook spacing. Launchers are equipped with electrical trigering system activated by pilot or Weapon System Operator. Weapon is very suitable for cost-efective engagement of variety of battlefield targets, particularly in anti-terorist operations, including reinforced buildins, bunkers etc.
L-128-04 launcher techical data:
Launcher lenght: 2270 mm
Launcher diameter: 380 mm
Launcher weight, empty: 85 kg
Launcher weight, loaded : 240 kg

HEAT Rocket techical data:
Rocket lenght: 1835 mm
Weight: 43.7 kg
Propellant charge type / weight: NGR-246 / 11.3 kg
HEAT werhead explosive charge weight: 2.5 kg
Stabilization: Four folding fins
Effective range 1500 m

HE Rocket techical data:

Rocket lenght: 1835 mm
Weight: 43.7 kg
Propellant charge type / weight: NGR-246 / 11.3 kg
Warhed weight: 15 kg
Explosive charge weight: 4 kg
Stabilization: Four folding fins
Effective range 1500 m





we can see that the effective range of the rockets is very short, compared to the russian S13 rockets.

Making these suitable only against targets which cant defend themselves.


if we compare the serbian 128mm to the russian 122mm S13...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-13_rocket

the russian rocket has the following advantages:
1- 5 rockets per launcher instead of 4
2- effective range is 3000m which is double the serbian rocket
3- The more recent S-13DF fuel air variant of the russian rocket has higher explosive power and a 6km range!


in my view, against daesh the S-13DF would have been the best choice. offering 4x the range of the BR-VZ-128 as well as at least 2-3x the explosive power.

But perhaps accuracy at such a range becomes an issue? It may very well be that the BR-VZ is much cheaper and more accurate than the S-13... which is why it was accepted.

Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الثلاثاء ديسمبر 29, 2015 8:45 pm
بواسطة hayder
today the PM visited ramadi... at his landing spot we can see 4x of the new Mi171s

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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الأربعاء ديسمبر 30, 2015 10:10 am
بواسطة TangoIII
More pics.

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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الخميس يناير 14, 2016 9:16 pm
بواسطة TangoIII
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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الجمعة فبراير 12, 2016 1:59 am
بواسطة TangoIII
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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الجمعة فبراير 12, 2016 2:49 am
بواسطة zarib
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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: السبت فبراير 27, 2016 1:51 am
بواسطة TangoIII
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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الخميس مارس 24, 2016 1:34 pm
بواسطة hayder
here is another interesting configuration with FAB-250TS bombs.

courtesy of tactical cell on FB

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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الجمعة إبريل 01, 2016 2:24 am
بواسطة TangoIII
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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الأحد يونيو 19, 2016 6:10 pm
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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الثلاثاء يوليو 26, 2016 8:26 pm
بواسطة TangoIII
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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الأربعاء يوليو 27, 2016 4:33 pm
بواسطة TangoIII
الطيارون الخريجون في براغ

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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الأحد أغسطس 21, 2016 8:33 am
بواسطة RED BARON
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Re: Mi17 / Mi171

مرسل: الأحد أغسطس 21, 2016 10:32 pm
بواسطة TangoIII
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