Chinese Jets Today At Bygone Price

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Chinese Jets Today At Bygone Price

مشاركة بواسطة TangoIII » الثلاثاء نوفمبر 23, 2010 1:34 pm

I wonder why not Iraq AF trying to get these planes?!
Chinese Jets Today At Bygone Price, It's cheep and good plane

ZHUHAI, CHINA– Airshow China is hosting the first international demonstration of the Chengdu JF-17/FC-1, flown here by a team from the Pakistan air force. Officials from China’s Aviation Industries of China (Avic) and China Aero-Technology Import Export Corporation (Catic) tell Aviation Week that despite the low price of the aircraft, it is not a low-tech piece of equipment, but rather a “21st century product.”

Catic Vice President Zeng Wen told Show News “one of the most impressive features of the JF-17 is its diverterless air inlets – negating the need for the intakes to be designed with a boundary layer diverter. This is an achievement in aerodynamics that only the most advanced aircraft designs in the world are configured with – and those others are very high-priced designs like the F-22 or F-35. Another element is that the avionics package of the JF-17 is very advanced – it is equivalent to most of the top-level aircraft in the world. There is also a full glass cockpit.”

What makes the JF-17 a lower-priced platform given its performance is that it is not an aircraft that was designed from scratch, says Catic. Instead, its onboard systems are a scaled-downed adaptation of the configuration from the other famous Chengdu fighter, the J-10. “This transfer of technology — transposing the aircraft systems from the J-10 to the JF-17 — is what makes the JF-17 so cost-effective,” Catic says.

Catic cannot confirm which nations are interested in either a JF-17 or J-10 purchase — although there has been significant interest in both platforms by different countries. A shortlist of prospective buyers for the JF-17 includes Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Egypt, Nigeria and others. What Catic will say is that “almost any of these countries which have in inventory MiG-21s, J-7s, A-5s, older Mirages — even countries with F-5s — would see the JF-17 as an attractive replacement option.”

Sales of the J-10 are a more sensitive subject, despite several statements by the Pakistan air force that it is interested in the aircraft. “Any country that wants a strong air force would consider a J-10 purchase,” Catic says.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/ ... l&headline
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JF-17 Thunder/FC-1 Xiaolong
The JF-17 Thunder (Urdu: تھنڈر), also designated Chengdu FC-1 Xiaolong (English: Fierce Dragon; Chinese: 枭龙; pinyin: Xiāo Lóng) is a single-engine, light-weight multi-role combat aircraft developed jointly by the Chengdu Aircraft Industries Corporation (CAC) of China, the Pakistan Air Force and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC). It is designated as "JF-17" by Pakistan, which is short for "Joint Fighter-17" and as "FC-1" by China, which is short for "Fighter China-1".

The JF-17 was developed primarily to meet the requirements of the Pakistan Air Force for a low-cost, medium-technology, multi-role combat aircraft as a cost-effective replacement for its ageing mixed fleet of Nanchang A-5, Chengdu F-7P/PG and Dassault Mirage III/V fighters and also have export potential to air forces of other developing countries as a cost-effective alternative to hi-tech but expensive Western fighters.

Role Multirole combat aircraft
National origin Islamic Republic of Pakistan
People's Republic of China
Manufacturer Pakistan Aeronautical Complex
Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation
First flight 25 August 2003
Introduction 12 March 2007
Status Operational with the Pakistan Air Force since 18 February 2010, undergoing avionics and radar development.
Primary user Pakistan Air Force
Produced In China: June 2007–present
In Pakistan: January 2008–present
Number built Prototypes: 6
Production: 14
Program cost US$ 500 million
Unit cost US$ 15 million (estimated)

General characteristics
Crew: 1
Length: 14.0 m [105] (45.9 ft)
Wingspan: 9.45 m (including 2 wingtip missiles) (31 ft)
Height: 4.77 m (15 ft 8 in)
Wing area: 24.4 m² (263 ft²)
Empty weight: 6,411 kg (14,134 lb)
Loaded weight: 9,100 kg [6][106] (20,062 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 12,700 kg (28,000 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Klimov RD-93 or WS-13 turbofan
Dry thrust: 49.4 kN / 51.2 kN (11,106 lbf / 11,510 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 84.4 kN / 86.36 kN[74] (18,973 lbf / 19,391 lbf)
G-limit: +8.5 g
Internal Fuel Capacity: 2300 kg (5,130 lb)

Performance
Maximum speed: Mach 1.8 (1,191 knots, 2,205 km/h)
Combat radius: 1,352 km (840 mi)
Ferry range: 3,000 km (2,175 mi)
Service ceiling: 16,700 m (54,790 ft)
Thrust/weight: 0.95

Armament
Guns: 1× 23 mm GSh-23-2 twin-barrel cannon (can be replaced with 30 mm GSh-30-2)
Hardpoints: 7 in total (4× under-wing, 2× wing-tip, 1× under-fuselage) with a capacity of 3,629 kg (8,000 lb) external fuel and ordnance
Rockets: 57 mm, 90 mm unguided rocket pods.

Missiles:
Air-to-air missiles:
Short range: AIM-9L/M, PL-5E, PL-9C
Beyond visual range: PL-12 / SD-10
Air-to-surface missiles:
Anti-radiation missiles : MAR-1
Anti-ship missiles: AM-39 Exocet
Cruise missiles: Ra'ad ALCM

Bombs:
Unguided bombs:
Mk-82, Mk-84 general purpose bombs
Matra Durandal anti-runway bomb
CBU-100/Mk-20 Rockeye anti-armour cluster bomb
Precision guided munitions (PGM):
GBU-10, GBU-12, LT-2 laser-guided bombs
H-2, H-4 electro-optically guided,[7] LS-6 satellite-guided glide bombs Satellite-guided bombs
Others:
Up to 3 external fuel drop tanks (1× under-fuselage 800 litres, 2× under-wing 800/1100 litres each) for extended range/loitering time.

Avionics
NRIET KLJ-7 multi-mode fire-control radar
Night vision goggles (NVG) compatible glass cockpit [6]
Helmet Mounted Sights/Display (HMS/D)
Infra-Red Search and Track (IRST)
Externally mounted avionics pods:
Self-protection radar jammer pod
Day/night laser designator targeting pod
Forward Looking Infra-Red (FLIR) pod

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JF-17_Thunder

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Re: Chinese Jets Today At Bygone Price

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الثلاثاء نوفمبر 23, 2010 2:32 pm

i like it.

cheap and simple. yet can be armed with very good aams and radar/irst.

supersonic, cheap to buy and maintain. can be iraq's "second line" fighter.

certainly preferable to L159 from czech republic.

but I still prefer the korean T50!

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Re: Chinese Jets Today At Bygone Price

مشاركة بواسطة التوبوليف العراقية » الأحد نوفمبر 28, 2010 9:29 pm

Very good as a successor for the Mig 21 & 23 in several countries ...
I hope Iraq can buy it as an second class aircrafts ..
and as a cheap solution
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Re: Chinese Jets Today At Bygone Price

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الخميس يناير 27, 2011 3:13 am

interesting news...

Chinese President Hu Jintao's high-profile visit to the US looks set to be followed by ambitious bids from China to supply platforms to meet two major US military aircraft procurement programmes.

State-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) is preparing proposals, in partnership with existing partner US aviation services group US Aerospace (USAE), to bid for the US Navy's VXX helicopter programme and the US Air Force T-X project to procure advanced jet trainers (AJT).

A lawyer who represents USAE in its dealings with AVIC, John C Kirkland – a partner at California law firm Luce Forward -–revealed to Jane's on 21 January that in both proposals AVIC would supply what would be regarded as civilian aircraft platforms that would be upgraded in the US with military avionics and, in the case of the T-X, a fire control system. Such manufacturing programmes would be facilitated under a USAE-AVIC strategic partnership that was formed in September 2010.

VXX

In the VXX programme, which was revived by Washington in February 2010 after being cancelled in 2009 because of cost overruns, the partnership are planning to bid with AVIC's 13-tonne AC-313 medium-lift transport helicopter, which is principally designed for civilian use. In the T-X programme, the bid would focus on AVIC's twin-engine L-15 Falcon AJT. In addition, USAE and AVIC are planning to market the Chinese-produced C919 jet airliner in the US as a business jet as well as a regional aircraft.

The VXX programme is worth about USD6 billion and, if USAE-AVIC bids for the contract, it is likely to be up against the AgustaWestland AW101 and the Sikorsky S-92 medium-lift helicopters. The USN is expected to procure more than 20 platforms to replace the existing Sikorsky VH-3 and VH-60 helicopters from around 2017.

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