L159 / T50 / Hawk T2 / M346 competition for Iraqi air force

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L159 / T50 / Hawk T2 / M346 competition for Iraqi air force

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الجمعة نوفمبر 19, 2010 1:15 am

From Abdul Qader Obaydi's recent interview he disclosed that Iraq is looking to buy updated czech L159s for combat purposes.

The L159 details below.
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The L159 ALCA "Advanced Light Combat Aircraft.

It is a small single seat development of the L59 trainer aircraft. Its equipped with a Grifo-L radar.





Dimensions:

Wingspan 9.54m
Overall Length12.73m
Height 4.87m
Weights:

Empty Weight 4,350kg
Maximum Ramp Weight8,000kg
Internal Fuel Only 1,547kg
Fuel Including Four External Tanks3,167kg
Maximum External Stores2,700kg
Engines:

EngineHoneywell ITEC F 124-GA-100
Maximum Thrust 28kN
Bypass Ratio 0.474
Overall Pressure Ratio 19.4
Inlet Airflow 42.5kg/sec
Performance:

Maximum Level Speed at Sea Level 936km/hr - 505ktas
Maximum Rate of Climb at Sea Level47m/sec
Service Ceiling13,200m
Take-Off Run440m
Maximum Range (Internal Fuel Only, 10% Reserve)1,570km
Maximum Range (Internal and External Fuel, 10% Reserve)2,530km
Design Load Factor, Maximum Structural Limit-4g to +8g

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Re: L159 for the Iraqi air force.

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الجمعة نوفمبر 19, 2010 1:22 am

The Czechs produced 72 of these planes. and around 48 are available for sale today. They are relatively new airframes (about 10 years old).

In addition to these ready airframes, the type is still produced (for Hungary at the moment). So in theory Iraq can get 48 relatively new airframes immediately, followed by new built airframes later on.

It is surprisingly compatible with better weapons (IRIS short range AAMs) than Iraq's upcoming F16IQ!

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Re: L159 for the Iraqi air force.

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الجمعة نوفمبر 19, 2010 1:43 am

L-159 Main Features
Common airframe configuration and aircraft systems
Multi-mode Pulse Doppler Radar (single-seat L-159) and provisions for optional nose-mounted sensors (two-seat L-159)
Advanced Human Machine Interface with Head-Up Display, color Multi-Function Displays and Hands-On-Throttle-And-Stick (HOTAS) controls
Avionics integration based on the MIL-STD-1553 databus
Accurate and autonomous navigation system with Ring Laser Gyro based Inertial Navigation System (INS) and Global Positioning System (GPS)
Extensive in-flight recording and debriefing capability for video, audio, self-protection system, engine and aircraft parameters
On-condition maintenance and fatigue monitoring system for low operational cost and optimum use of aircraft service life
On-Board Oxygen Generating System (OBOGS), On-Board Inert Gas Generating System (OBIGGS) and Auxiliary Power Unit (APU) for self-contained operations with minimum support
Seven pylons for various stores
Ability to operate from semi-prepared airfields
"Best in Class" Honeywell F124-GA-100 engine
Self-protection system installation and use of redundant systems for high level of survivability and flight safety
Integrated Logistic Support
The L-159 is designed for minimum requirements on supporting facilities. The Integrated Logistic Support (ILS) program provides the Air Force with cost-effective supportability and early operational self-reliance. The ILS is customized in order to maximize utilization of existing infrastructure.
ILS Package
Spare parts delivery for the whole life cycle of the aircraft, including obsolescence solutions
Training of ground and flight personnel
Logistic support analysis
Technical publication delivery (user's and maintenance manuals)
After-sales support
ILS implementation and management at the customer
Mission Planning and Debriefing
The L-159 aircraft is equipped with advanced and complex data loading and recording systems. These systems facilitate highly efficient mission planning and detailed post-flight evaluation and mission debriefing. Associated ground equipment supports effective planning of both combat and training missions.

Ground Based Training System
Complex ground based training is another strength of the L-159 Combat and Training System. Training aids range from training manuals to a full mission simulator and effectively support cost-effective training of today’s and future military pilots.

L-159 in Service with Czech Air Force
Single-seat L-159 ALCA advanced light combat aircraft entered service in 2001
Two-seat L-159T advanced training aircraft entered service in 2007
Within the national air defence system fulfilling a broad scale of tasks, starting from advanced and operational training, ground support to reconnaissance and air-to-air missions
Regularly participating in international exercises (Tactical Leadership Programme, NATO Air Meet, Clean Hunter, Flying Rhino)
Aero is a long-term partner to the Czech Air Force in support of the L-159 fleet

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Re: L159 for the Iraqi air force.

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الجمعة نوفمبر 19, 2010 4:37 pm

Czech Republic to Sell Fighter Jets to Iraq
Posted on 29 October 2010. Tags: Aero L-159, Czech
The Czech Republic might sell up to 25 Aero L-159 ALCA (Advanced Light Combat Aircraft) subsonic fighter aircraft to Iraq, according to Prague Monitor.
The deal requires approval from the U.S., which supplied avionic equipment to the planes. According to some information, Czech Foreign Minister Karel Schwarzenberg discussed the issue on his visit to the USA recently.
“The Czech Republic has for a long time been trying to sell its [redundant] L-159s on the foreign market. It is a quality aircraft with a broad training and combat potential. Apart from the Czech military, it could definitely prove itself elsewhere in the world. I can confirm that one of the countries that are interested in L-159s is Iraq,” Jan Pejsek, head of the Defence Ministry’s press department, as is quoted as saying.
Aero L-159 ALCA (Advanced Light Combat Aircraft) is a light combat plane primarily designed for attacks on ground targets and for direct support of ground units.
It can also be used for aerial reconnaissance and combat.

http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/tag/aero-l-159/

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Re: L159 for the Iraqi air force.

مشاركة بواسطة Khalid » السبت نوفمبر 20, 2010 1:35 pm

I think it would a good (and cheap) option, but it all depends on its real performance...
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Re: L159 for the Iraqi air force.

مشاركة بواسطة TangoIII » السبت نوفمبر 20, 2010 4:58 pm

The Czech Republic government originally ordered an advanced, westernized variants of the subsonic L-39/59 and had contracted with the manufacturer Aero Vodochody of this aircraft for the purchase of 72 L159A aircrafts and the first was delivered in April 2000.
All 72 were delivered by the end of 2003, but by the reduction in defense expenditure government has decided to dispense with about 47 aircrafts and offered for sale. Failed negotiations to sell 5 planes, to Bolivia due to USA refused to export permission of U.S. equipments (avionics system and engine) for the L159’s to Bolivia..
Question is this the desire of Iraq - U.S. to buy this aircraft?
Or is it a result of the commission paid for purchase such aircrfts?.

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Re: L159 for the Iraqi air force.

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » السبت نوفمبر 20, 2010 9:28 pm

Well. Iraq is looking to buy initially about 24-25 advanced trainer / light attack aircraft.

So far the Iraqis have looked at the:

Korean T-50 golden Eagle (they said they will buy it... but haven't yet).
They went to Britain and had a look at the new Hawk trainer (once again haven't bought it).
Now they're looking at the L159 from Czech republic.

When they will actually buy one of these is unknown. I still haven't seen any evidence of Iraqis testing the M436, Yak130 or L15, but out of these aircraft my personal preference would be for the Korean T-50 Golden Eagle. Its a true Advanced trainer / Light attack aircraft with Mach 1.5 supersonic capability as well as more modern avionics than the other options, and a higher bombload / endurance.

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Re: L159 for the Iraqi air force.

مشاركة بواسطة TangoIII » الأربعاء نوفمبر 24, 2010 1:21 am

Must be noted the South Korean manufactur company of the plane T -50 has chosen an Israeli-made radar Perhaps this was an indirect cause of the cessation of Iraqi attempts to get this plane.

Well,We can make a comparison between the specifications of each of these aircraft on paper of course!

KAI T-50 Golden Eagle

The T-50 Golden Eagle is a family of South Korean supersonic advanced trainers and multirole fighters, developed by Korea Aerospace Industries beginning in the late 1990s. The T-50 is South Korea's first indigenous supersonic aircraft and one of world's few supersonic trainers. Currently, KAI is upgrading four T-50 Golden Eagle trainers into prototypes of advanced multirole fighters designated FA-50.

The T-50 program was originally intended to develop an indigenous trainer aircraft capable of supersonic flight, to train and prepare pilots for the KF-16 and F-15K, replacing trainers such as T-38 and A-37 that were then in service with the Republic of Korea Air Force. Prior South Korean aircraft programs include the propeller-driven KT-1 basic trainer produced by Daewoo Aerospace (now part of KAI), and license-manufactured KF-16.[1] In general the T-50 series of aircraft closely resembles the KF-16 in configuration.

The T-50 Golden Eagle design is largely derived from the Lockheed Martin F-16 Fighting Falcon, and they have many similarities: use of a single engine, speed, size, cost, and the range of weapons. KAI's previous engineering experience in license-producing the KF-16 has substantially benefited T-50 in the designing stage.

Iraq was negotiating the acquisition of T-50 trainer jets, having first publicly expressed official interest during the Korea-Iraq summit in Seoul on 24 February 2009. In April 2010, Iraq has reopened the jet lead-in fighter-trainer competition for 24 aircraft, in which TA-50 will compete.

The United Arab Emirates is seeking 35-40 fighter-trainers. In February 2009, UAE selected the M-346 over the T-50. But in January 2010, UAE reopened the trainer contest.

Specifications

Role Advanced trainer
Multirole fighter
Manufacturer Korea Aerospace Industries
First flight 20 August 2002[1]
Introduced 22 February 2005[2]
Status Active
Primary user Republic of Korea Air Force
Number built 60+
Unit cost US$21 million as of 2008

General characteristics
Data from Korea Aerospace, Lockheed Martin

Crew: 2
Length: 12.98 m (42 ft 7 in)
Wingspan: 9.17 m (30 ft 1 in)
Height: 4.78 m (15 ft 8.25 in)
Empty weight: 6,450 kg (14,200 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 13,500 kg (29,700 lb)
Powerplant: 1× General Electric F404 afterburning turbofan
Dry thrust: 53.07 kN (11,925 lbf)
Thrust with afterburner: 78.7 kN (17,700 lbf)

PerformanceMaximum speed: Mach 1.4~1.5[60][61]
Range: 1,851 km (1,150 mi)
Service ceiling: 16,760 m (55,000 ft)
Thrust/weight: 0.96[60]
Max g limit: -3 g / +8 g

Armament
Guns: 1× A-50 3-barreled 20 mm M197 Gatling gun
Rockets: Hydra 70, LOGIR

Missiles:Air-to-air: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-120 AMRAAM
Air-to-ground: AGM-65 Maverick
Bombs: Mk 82, Mk 83, and Mk 84 general purpose bombs with SPICE, JDAM, or JDAM-ER guidance kits; CBU-97/105 sensor fuzed weapons, laser-guided bombs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KAI_T-50_Golden_Eagle

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Yakovlev Yak-130

The Yakovlev Yak-130 (NATO reporting name "Mitten"[3]) is a subsonic two-seat advanced jet trainer/light attack aircraft developed by the Yakovlev design bureau. Development of the plane began in 1991, and the maiden flight was conducted on 26 April 1996. In 2005, it won a Russian government tender for training aircraft, and in 2009 the first planes were put into service in the Russian Air Force. As an advanced training aircraft, the Yak-130 is able to replicate the characteristics of several 4+ generation fighters as well as the 5th generation Sukhoi T-50. It can also perform light-attack and reconnaissance duties, carrying a combat load of 3,000 kg.

In the early 1990s, the Soviet government asked the industry to develop a new aircraft to replace the Czech-made Aero L-29 Delfín and Aero L-39 Albatros jet trainers. Five design bureaus put forward proposals. Among them were Sukhoi's S-54, Myasischev's M-200, Mikoyan's MiG-AT, and Yakovlev's Yak-UTS. In 1991, the other proposals were dropped and only the MiG-AT and Yak-UTS remained.

Yak-130 is an advanced pilot training aircraft, able to replicate characteristics of Russian 4+ generation fighters, as well as the Sukhoi T-50 fifth generation fighter. The developer estimates that the plane can cover up to 80% of the entire pilot flight training program. In addition to its training purpose, it is also able to function as a light-attack and reconnaissance plane. It can carry a combat load of 3,000 kg, including weapons, auxiliary fuel tanks, weapon guidance, electronic intelligence and electronic countermeasures pods. According to its chief designer Konstantin Popovich, during a testing phase that ended in December 2009, the plane was tested with "all airborne weapons with a weight of up to 500 kg that are in service in the Russian Air Force".

The twin engines are mounted under extended wing roots, which reach as far forward as the windscreen. Originally the AI-25 engine was selected, but this was later changed to the Klimov-modified RD-35M rated at 2,200 kg (4,850 lbs) thrust each. The export version or future variants can be fitted with the L'yulka Saturn Al-55 engine if chosen by the buyer.

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Russia 150 orders, to be delivered in 2009-2015. First production aircraft received in late July 2009. Russia has a total requirement of 200 aircraft, Algeria 16 ordered, Libya 6 on order, Vietnam 8 on order?. And Syria negiotiating for purchase.

Specifications (Yak-130)
Role Advanced trainer / Light attack
National origin Russia
Manufacturer Yakovlev
First flight 26 April 1996
Introduced July 2009
Status Active
Primary user Russian Air Force
Number built 4 (60 units in production)
Unit cost 15 million
Developed into Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master

On 29 May 2010, one aircraft crashed near Lipetsk during testing.

General characteristics

Data from http://www.yak.ru

Crew: 2 pilots
Length: 11.49 m (37 ft 8 in)
Wingspan: 9.72 m (31 ft 10 in)
Height: 4.76 m (15 ft 7 in)
Wing area: 23.52 m² (253.2 sq ft)
Empty weight: 4,600 kg (10,141 lb)
Loaded weight: 6,350 kg (14,000 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 6,500 kg (14,330 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Klimov-Motor sich AI-222-25 turbofan, 21.58 kN (4,852 lbf) each

Performance
Maximum speed: 1,050 km/h (644 mph)
Cruise speed: 887 km/h (551 mph)
Stall speed: 165 km/h (103 mph)
Range: 2,546 km (1,582 miles)
Service ceiling: 12,500 m (42,660 ft)
Rate of climb: 50 m/s (10,000 ft/min)
Wing loading: 276.4 kg/m² (56.60 lb/sq ft)
Thrust/weight: 0.68

Armament
Nine hard points for a mixed load of all types of Russian and western air to air (short to medium range) and air to ground dumb and smart bombs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-130

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Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master

The Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master is a military transonic trainer aircraft. It is based on work done by Yakovlev and Aermacchi while working on the Yak-130 as a joint venture.

In 1993, Aermacchi signed an agreement to partner with Yakovlev on the new trainer the firm had been developing since 1991 for the Russian Air Force. The resulting aircraft first flew in 1996 and was brought to Italy the following year to substitute the aging MB-339. At the time, the aircraft was marketed as the Yak/AEM-130, however, by 2000, differences in priorities between the two firms brought about an end to the partnership, with each developing the aircraft independently, with Aermacchi retaining worldwide marketing rights except for Russia and the other CIS nations. A Russian version is also being pursued by Yakovlev and Sokol, under a different time schedule.

The M-346 is designed for training combat pilots for front line fighter aircraft. It is capable of transonic flight without using an afterburner, which is designed to reduce acquisition and operating costs. Two engines and triple-quadruple redundant systems enhance reliability.

The aerodynamic design of the M-346 uses vortex lift to provide manoeuvrability and controllability at very high angle of attack (up to 40° degrees) using a fly-by-wire control system.

The M-346 was named the winner of a competition by the United Arab Emirates at the IDEX 2009 defense show in Abu Dhabi on 25 February 2009. The official said the order involved delivery of 48 aircraft to be used for pilot training and light attack duties. A final request for proposals last year had set the requirement at 20 trainers, 20 aircraft for combat duties, and the remainder would go toward the creation of a formation flying team. However on 27 January 2010, negotiations to sign a contract have reportedly stalled over specifications.

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Italian Air Force (Aeronautica Militare) - 15 aircraft on order
Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) - 12 aircraft on order

Specifications (M-346)

Role Advanced trainer / light attack
Manufacturer Alenia Aermacchi
First flight 15 July 2004
Status Under development
Primary user Italian Air Force
Republic of Singapore Air Force
Unit cost €20 million
Developed from Yakovlev Yak-130


General characteristics
Data from Alenia Aermacchi web page

Crew: two, student and instructor
Length: 11.49 m (37 ft 7 in)
Wingspan: 9.72 m (31 ft 9 in)
Height: 4.76 m (15 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 23.52 m² (253.2 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,610 kg (10,165 lb)
Loaded weight: 6,700 kg (14,770 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 9,500 kg (20,945 lb)
Powerplant: 2× Honeywell F124-GA-200 , 27.8 kN (6,250 lbf) each

Performance
Never exceed speed: Mach 1.2 (1,460 km/h, 915 mph)
Maximum speed: 1,255 km/h (779 mph)
Stall speed: 166 km/h (104 mph)
Range: 1,890 km (1,181 miles)
Service ceiling: 13,715 m (45,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 6,401 m/min (21,000 ft/min)
Wing loading: 285 kg/m² (58.3 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.84

Armament
Nine hardpoints for a variety of guns, bombs, rockets and missiles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alenia_Aermacchi_M-346

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Re: L159 for the Iraqi air force.

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الأربعاء نوفمبر 24, 2010 2:15 am

and the final competitor....

Hawk T2

Hawk 128 (Hawk T2)


A Hawk T2 of the Royal Air Force in 2009
The Hawk 128 is the new Advanced Jet Trainer (AJT) for the RAF and Royal Navy. The Mk. 128 includes modern LCD displays instead of conventional instrumentation, and allows preparation for flying modern fighter aircraft, particularly the all "glass" Typhoon. It uses the Rolls-Royce Adour 951 engine. The UK Ministry of Defence awarded a Design and Development Contract to BAE Systems on 22 Dec 2004,[18] building on the design of the Australian Mk. 127 and the South African Mk. 120s. A £450 million contract was signed in October 2006 for the production of 28 Hawk 128s.[19] The MoD had originally announced its intention to order 20 aircraft with options for 24 more. The aircraft's maiden flight occurred on 27 July 2005 from BAE Systems' Warton Aerodrome and lasted for 1 hour 18 minutes.[20]
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Specifications (Hawk 128)


Data from Royal Air Force,[36] BAE Systems,[37] and Air Vectors[38]
General characteristics
Crew: 2: student, instructor
Length: 12.43 m (40 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 9.94 m (32 ft 7 in)
Height: 3.98 m (13 ft 1 in)
Wing area: 16.70 m² (179.64 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,480 kg (9,880 lb)
Useful load: 3,000 kg (6,600 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 9,100 kg (20,000 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Rolls-Royce Adour Mk. 951 turbofan with FADEC, 29 kN (6,500 lbf) 29 kN
Performance
Maximum speed: 0.84 Mach (1,028 km/h, 638 mph) at altitude
Range: 2,520 km (1,360 NM, 1,565 mi)
Service ceiling: 13,565 m (44,500 ft)
Rate of climb: 47 m/s (9,300 ft/min)
Thrust/weight: 0.65
Armament
Note: all armament is optional.
1× 30 mm ADEN cannon, in centreline pod
Up to 6,800 lb (3,085 kg) of weapons on five hardpoints, including:
4× AIM-9 Sidewinder or ASRAAM on wing pylons and wingtip rails
1,500 lb (680 kg), limited to one centreline and two wing pylons (Hawk T1)

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Re: L159 / T50 / Hawk T2 / M346 competition for Iraqi air fo

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الأربعاء إبريل 20, 2011 4:31 pm

Czech Republic has offered to deliver 36 L159 Advanced Light Combat Aircraft to Iraq.

http://www.ceskenoviny.cz/news/zpravy/c ... ers/625280

Prague - Czech Prime Minister Petr Necas will offer Iraq subsonic L-159 assault planes and the upgrading of helicopters during his visit to Iraq in May, Foreign Minister Karel Schwarzenberg said after a meeting with his Iraqi counterpart Hoshyar Zebari today.

Schwarzenberg said the Czech Republic is also interested in closer economic cooperation with Iraq. It would like to participate in the modernisation of Iraqi oil mining equipment.
That is why Necas is to be accompanied on his trip to Iraq by the industry and trade minister.
Schwarzenberg and Zebari also spoke today about the situation in Arab countries where protests against the ruling regimes have bene held in the past months.
Necas is to go to Iraq on May 23-24 and sign there an agreement on mutual protection of investments.
The Defence Ministry announced in January that it wants to sell this year 36 subsonic L-159 ALCAs that the Czech military does not need.
Defence Minister Alexandr Vondra said previously Iraq is one of the countries with which the Czech Republic is discussing the sale.

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Re: L159 / T50 / Hawk T2 / M346 competition for Iraqi air fo

مشاركة بواسطة TangoIII » الثلاثاء مايو 24, 2011 11:31 am

Iraq says ready to buy Czech-made combat jets
Iraq is ready to buy light attack aircraft, offered for sale by the Czech republic earlier this month, Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said after talks with his Czech counterpart in Baghdad.

The visit to Baghdad by Czech Prime Minister Petr Necas, which began on Monday, focused on bilateral economic and political cooperation.

In mid-April, the Czech Republic announced its plans to offer Iraq 24 L-159 combat aircraft and help in modernizing the Iraqi helicopter fleet.

The single-seat L-159 ALCA is a light multi-role combat aircraft designed for a variety of air-to-air, air-to-ground and reconnaissance missions.

The jet was developed in the late 1990s by Aero Vodochody on the basis of the proven airframe design and aerodynamic configuration of the L39 Albatros and L59 family of combat trainers.

The aircraft is equipped with an advanced multi-mode radar for all-weather, day-and-night missions and can carry a wide range of NATO-standard payloads including air-to-air and air-to-ground missiles and laser guided bombs.

WARSAW, May 24 (RIA Novosti)

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20110524/164189099.html

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مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الأربعاء مايو 25, 2011 1:22 am

more details about L159.

The L159 ALCA is based on the proven airframe design and aerodynamic configuration of the L39 Albatros and L59 family of basic and advanced jet trainers, and incorporates a high-performance military turbofan engine, advanced avionics and sensors. The operational capabilities of the aircraft include close air support, tactical reconnaissance, air defence, counter insurgency, border patrol, anti-ship missions, and lead-in fighter and weapons training.

COCKPIT

The cockpit arrangement and controls correspond to a modern fighter aircraft configuration. The Flight Visions Head-Up Display (HUD) with raster capability is the primary flight instrument and weapon aiming system. The multifunction colour displays are used for the display of flight and navigation information and weapons systems status. The Hands-On Throttle And Stick (HOTAS) control enables both pilots to control the aircraft without removing their hands from the throttle or the control stick.

The cockpit is protected with composite and ceramic ballistic armour. Survivability is also increased by the provision of a fuel tank inerting system, an On-Board Inert Gas-Generating System (OBIGGS). VS-2 zero ejection seats and a canopy jettisoning system are fitted. The standard aircraft configuration also includes an On-Board Oxygen-Generating System (OBOGS).

WEAPONS

The aircraft is equipped with a Hamilton Standards Stores Management System. There are seven hardpoints to carry stores: three under each wing and one under the centre fuselage. These are capable of carrying a wide range of NATO standard weapons, including AIM-9 Sidewinder air-to-air missiles, AGM-65 Maverick air-to ground missiles, rockets and free-fall bombs, a gun pod, laser-guided bombs, reconnaissance pods, electronic countermeasures pods and fuel drop tanks.

The system is adaptable for the future addition of new weapons, including medium-range air-to-air missiles and special pods for ECM, reconnaissance, night navigation and targeting.

Countermeasures

The L159 ALCA's electronic warfare system consists of the BAE Systems Sky Guardian 200 radar warning receiver and the Vinten Vicon 78 series 455 countermeasures dispensing system. Provision is made for the installation of an electronic countermeasures (jamming) pod.

AVIONICS

The avionics system meets multi-mission requirements and provides capabilities similar to current-generation frontline fighter and ground attack aircraft. Avionics integration is via a MIL-STD-1553 databus, which facilitates future growth. The avionics system performs the following functions: target sensing, controls and displays, stores management, communication, navigation and identification, self-protection, and data loading and recording.

The L159A aircraft is equipped with a Grifo-L multimode pulse Doppler radar produced by the Italian company, FIAR. For air-to-air search the radar has five modes of operation, can track up to eight targets and has track-while-scan capability. There are four submodes for air combat and nine modes for air-to-surface operations. The L159B is fitted with an electro-optical sensor or laser designator in the nose.

The aircraft's autopilot and yaw damper, supplied by BAE Systems Flight Controls, has Stall Avoidance System mode (SAS), automatic attitude hold (ATT HLD), heading hold (HDG HLD), altitude hold (ALT HLD) and Control Stick Steering mode (CSS).

The Aircraft Monitoring System (AMOS) collects, processes and records data about the aircraft systems and aircraft loading, and provides automatic data retrieval and data transfer, via a Fairchild data transfer system, to the aircraft maintenance management system.

ENGINE

The aircraft is equipped with a Honeywell ITEC F 124-GA-100 engine developing a maximum thrust of 28kN. The F124 is a two-shaft non-afterburning turbofan engine with three-stage LP axial compressor. The HP compressor has four axial stages followed by one centrifugal. An Engine Monitoring System (EMS) is embedded in the dual Full Authority Digital Engine Control (FADEC) to store mechanical and performance data during flight, and has the capability to provide analytical and condition check-out on the ground.

Aero Vodochody is flight testing L-159 aircraft equipped with an in-flight refuelling probe.

Performance of the L159 ALCA

The L159 can climb at the rate of 47m per second. Its maximum speed is 936km per hour. The range and service ceiling of the aircraft are 2,530km and 13,200m, respectively. Its take-off run is 440m.

The aircraft weighs around 4,350kg and its maximum take-off weight is 8,000kg

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مشاركة بواسطة Mirage F1 » الأربعاء مايو 25, 2011 1:48 am

طائرة التدريب L159 طائرة تدريب ممتازة و القوة الجوية العراقية له خبرة سابقاً بطائرات التدريب الجيكية مثل L29 و L39 و اتصور ان العرض سوف يرسة عليها خصوصاً بعد زيارة الوفد الجيكي للعراق و موافقة الحكومة العراقية على شراء الاسلحة من دولة الجيك
اما بالنسبة لي فأني افضل الـT-50 وذلك لكونها اسرع من الصوت و شاركت شركة لوكهيد مارتين في تصنيعها و هي شركة عريقة لتصنيع الطائرات و الاهم من ذلك انها طائرة تدريبية لتاهيل الطياريين بشكل اساسي لطائرةالـF-16 و التي يخطط العراق لاستيرادها في المستقبل

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Re: L159 / T50 / Hawk T2 / M346 competition for Iraqi air fo

مشاركة بواسطة hayder » الأربعاء مايو 25, 2011 2:01 am

HI Mirage F1. a couple of corrections.

Boeing is involved in the L159 project. (Lockheed Martin was with the T50 project).
The L159 is not supersonic unfortunately.

I think that the L159 was chosen because it is very cheap and available immediately (as well as Iraq has previous experience with its "grandfather" the L39.

The T50 would take 2 years to deliver and cost about $600M in total.
The L159 can be delivered in 6 months and cost maybe $250M total.

Easy to make a choice there.

But of course, you can only "accept" that Iraq made a choice when we see the planes being delivered! I mean since 2008 Iraq has said they'll buy T50, Hawk T2 and now L159...

Similarly Iraq has said they'll buy F16, Mirage 2000, Mirage F1 etc... and nothing :D

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مشاركة بواسطة TangoIII » الأربعاء مايو 25, 2011 10:23 am

يمكن وصف الخيار العراقي بشراء طائرات الجيكية
L-159
بأنه الخيار الأبسط والأقل تكلفة ذلك أن العراق درج على
الاستمرار في الحصول على الأسلحة الشرقية ( رغم إن الطائرة على العموم مجهزة بتقنية غربية من ناحية المحرك والكترونيات الطيران لحد ما) ولا يرغب كثيرا" في الانتقال إلى الأسلحة والتكنولوجيا الغربية بشكل خاص وذلك لان الأسلحة والتكنولوجيا الغربية أكثر تقدما وأكثر كلفة تشغيلية و شرائية فيما إن الأسلحة الشرقية هي الأرخص والأبسط إدامة وتشغيل بألاضافة إلى أنها أسلحة وتكنولوجيات معروفة للعرافين بطبيعة استخدامها السابق. وألا ماهو السبب بشراء طائرات تم تخزينها في المخازن منذ ما يزيد عن عقد من الزمان ولا يجري إنتاجها أو التفكير بإعادة الإنتاج لعدم ورود أي طلبات لشراء طائرات وهي بحد ذاتها بحاجة إلى أعادة
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صيانة وتجديد وهي أيضا" لا تشكل أي قدرة قتالية أو تدريبية استثنائية كذلك من الذي سيكفل توفر قطع الغيار اللازمة والخدمات التشغيلية اللازمة لفترة طويلة لأنه لا يعقل إن يتم التفكير باستخدامها لفترة محدودة أو يتم تفكيك بعضها لاستمرار عددا" اقل في الخدمة وأنقل هنا
عن المنتدى البريطاني

forum.keypublishing
الذي يخوض في نقاش حول اختيار العراق للطائرات الجيكية ما يلي:

Based from Indonesian Air Forces sources on the evaluations of 3 contenders of Indonesian LIFT contest (sorry no-online link); L-159 scores high on Economical, Yak-130 scores high on the adaptability, whille T-50 scores high in technological (the contest then won by T-50 more to the basis of long term potential cooperation with ROK in Defense). What makes L-159 droped was the 'doubt' on the Indonesian Air Force technical team with the long term future of the aircraft (especially since Checzh herself didn't show their own willingness to get more aircraft in productions for their own uses),

http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showth ... p?t=109179

الترجمة :

استنادا" لمصادر القوات الجوية الاندونيسية بخصوص تقييم 3 طائرات تدريب خفيفة متنافسة لصالح القوات الجوية الاندونيسية (آسف لا صلة على الانترنت)؛
L-159
سجلت أفضل درجات بخصوص الناحية الاقتصادية و
Yak-130
حصلت على درجات عالية على التكيف ، في حين سجلت
ال
T-50
درجات عالية في التكنولوجية (ثم فازت في المسابقة ووقع الاختيار على الطائرة
T-50
وذلك لرغبة الفريق التقني الاندونيسي في المزيد من
الجهود لبناء تعاون طويل الأجل مع جمهورية كوريا المحتملة في قضايا الدفاع). والذي أسقط
L-159
كان 'شك' فريق القوة الجوية الاندونيسية التقني هو المستقبل على المدى الطويل للطائرة (وخاصة منذ أن الجيك نفسها لم تظهر رغبة خاصة بها للحصول على مزيد الطائرات في الإنتاج للاستخدامات الخاصة بهم)،.

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